Sept. 1, 2025
89-Circling Back to Louis, Luie and COVID Dreams (1217)
Jessica explores the pivotal year 1217 in English history, when a nine-year-old king and his 70-year-old regent knight faced rebellious barons and French invasion. This turning point year shaped England's language, governance, and future through two decisive battles that preserved the nation's independence.
• King John signed but then reneged on the Magna Carta, angering barons who invited French Prince Louis to take the throne
• When King John died, his nine-year-old son Henry III became king with William Marshall as his regent
• The Battle of Lincoln in May 1217 marked a turning point in the First Barons' War
• The Battle of Sandwich (Dover) in August saw English ships capture 65 of 80 French vessels without losing any of their own
• Following these victories, English was reinstated as the official language of England
• William Marshall is considered one of the greatest knights in history by many historians
Jessica’s sources
Adams, S. (2025, August 17). Battle of Sandwich. Encyclopedia Britannica.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Sandwich-1217
1217 and the ideals of chivalry – Historia Magazine
Wikipedia
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Music by Tim Crowe
00:00 - Intro and Sister Banter
06:06 - Year 1217: King John's Troubles
09:29 - Henry III and William Marshall
14:29 - Battle of Lincoln and Sandwich
19:04 - Language Change and Wrap-up
20:20 - Pet Peeve Phrases Discussion
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If you don't know history, then you don't know anything.
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You are a leaf that doesn't know.
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It is part of a tree, michael Crichton.
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Hello, Hiya sister.
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So I'm interested to know what we're talking about today.
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I mean, I have a general idea, but I have no idea why that quote has anything to do with what we're talking about today.
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So we're doing history.
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I picked a random year to go over, but if you know, me.
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you know why I picked the year?
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Because nothing is actually random.
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Yeah, it's one of my favorite numbers, I gotta say.
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So hi, this is the first time you guys are seeing us.
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Yeah, I have COVID my voice, my throat hurts like razor blades.
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so, yeah, and me being the uh, the understanding sister that I am, said we're still recording anyway.
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Well, this was because the overwhelming vote was that we do video.
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Thanks, everybody, there's her cute face.
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That's what you've been waiting for, oh there's one dog, there's my new dog.
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Oh, speaking of that dog, so he sleeps in my bathroom and two nights ago I got up to go use the restroom in the middle of the night Thank you, perimenopause and I tripped over him.
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I didn't see him.
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I felt so bad.
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I have a huge, I don't know.
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I have a huge bump on my elbow.
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Oh, my goodness.
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So you hit the ground Hard.
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Because I realized it was him and I didn't want all my weight to fall on him.
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And he freaked out because I must have woke him up in the middle of a dead sleep and he started barking.
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I'm like he's got a great bark.
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His bark is very intimidating.
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But then he got all scared and was hiding under our kitchen table.
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So I had to sit up with him for an hour to help him calm down and realize it's okay.
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He didn't even recognize me for like two minutes.
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Oh, my goodness, you know.
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This is what's funny about, because I have two half Pyrenees dogs.
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One of them is super, super protective, but she's also afraid of everything, so she will hide under tables.
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She will.
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I think that's my dogs in the background.
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Now, right, do you hear the jingles?
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Yes, my dogs are not wearing collars.
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Oh, you're so thoughtful.
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At least one of us is oh, they're playing.
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Oh, whatever.
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Yeah, and this is the most thoughtless episode ever of me I'm Ingrid, by the way.
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The thoughtless one.
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Hey, I'm Jessica, by the way.
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Oh, hey, I'm Jessica.
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The, this one, this one.
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Okay.
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Well, let's stop rambling and listen to your history lesson.
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Okay, it won't take that long, because there's actually not that much history from this year.
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My sources are the Encyclopedia Britannica, so, yay, I used a good one you don't have to list it, we'll just put it in the show notes.
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How about that?
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Oh, okay, cool Sources in the show notes.
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Oh, by the way, this is also another situation.
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Oh yeah, sure is.
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So I can't see my video now because I tell you, if you do no, it'll be a surprise for everybody.
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And I'm not going to watch it, so it's okay.
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Okay, the year is 1217.
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Do?
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you know why?
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I thought you were doing 1218.
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That was a typo.
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I know why, but I don't want to steal your thunder.
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So go ahead and tell everybody.
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They're waiting on the edges of their seats to find out why you picked 12-17.
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My birthday is December 17th.
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Which, by the way, 12-18 is now stuck in my head because of your typo.
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So your birthday card may be 12-18.
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Your birthday wishes may be 1218.
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You've known me literally my whole entire life.
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You better not mess it up now.
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Yes, but I'm old now and things just don't compute the same.
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Okay, on with the history.
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So the majority of the history that I found was about England because it was in the middle of the Crusades.
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I had to go back and take a history lesson myself, so I read some of the stuff and then of course I couldn't find where I read it.
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So some of the stuff is just a mixture of my memory of what I read.
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So take what I say with a grain of salt.
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But the rest of it is factual, Factual as history from 1217 can be Could it also be oh, my dogs are crazy.
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now Could it also be part COVID weird dreams mixture in here Possibly, and I took some pretty strong cold medicine last night.
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That's what you get for procrastinating until last night to write this I hate, that's what you get.
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My kids say that that's what you get.
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It is what it is all right folks, I'm gonna start now nowadays, jessica is getting started.
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Let's circle back.
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Put a pin in it and we'll circle back.
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Okay, thanks, all right.
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So 1217, england was in turmoil.
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It was the president, not the president.
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Nope, the king, stop, stop.
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The king was King John and he was not doing a very good job.
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The barons were mad at him.
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He actually signed the Magna Carta, which is the great charter, in non-Latin, translated from Latin.
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Oh man, I didn't even finish my coffee yet, so for those that may not remember our refresher for the Magna Carta gives rights and stuff to everyone else.
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It takes it away from being a feudal state to being more of a democracy.
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So the Magna Carta is kind of important for us now.
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Now I appreciate.
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I appreciate the reminder, by the way, because you know over a thousand years ago that how those memories just don't stick with me like they do now excuse me, sorry.
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Uh, memories of a thousand years ago.
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What are you talking about?
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you said as a like to remind you, in case you need a reminder on what all of this is we all learned about the magna carta in history class is what I meant smart maybe I'm talking about remembering to high school of when I learned about it, which was a really long, a thousand years ago.
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That's actually not what.
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I was talking about.
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I'll let that one slide.
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Okay, let me finish this.
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It's not that long, gosh.
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Now I don't know where I was.
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Oh, magna Carta.
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So he reneged on the Magna Carta and he took away all the rights again.
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So the barons are pissed and they reached out.
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Is renege an okay thing to say?
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Yes, what does that mean?
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Well, I know what it means.
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Okay, oh my God, my dogs are insane.
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Where is the origination of that?
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It's not offensive, is it?
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No, it's.
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R-E-N-E-G-E.
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Re-nig it's a word, it's a verb.
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It has nothing to do with what you probably think it does Now.
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Indian giving, which is also another word for reneging, which was popular back in the what?
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80s.
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That is offensive Right okay, well, you don't have to list all the offensive things to say now.
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Well, I was just giving you a.
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I was trying to give you an example of what would be offensive as a latin derivative okay, carry on thanks, all right.
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so he reneged and the barons were mad.
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So they went to war.
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And um, they actually, they went to war with william marsh, they went to war with William Marshall.
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It was back and forth.
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Oh, louis was the youngest or eldest son of the king of France.
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So the barons who wanted to overthrow King John, who was the king of England, reached out to them and said hey, you can be our king if you come and help us get this guy out.
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So I bet you it's Louis.
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It's spelled guy out.
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So I bet you it's Louis.
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It's spelled like Louis, but I bet you it's Louis.
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Louis, I don't know.
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It's Louis, is it Louis?
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Well then, why is it spelled with an E?
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It's spelled like Louis, whatever.
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Okay, we have probably messed that up as time has gone along.
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Yeah, see, when I was reading it at, louis made more sense.
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I'm like that Louis sounds more familiar than Louis.
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What do you mean in E L-U-I-E Louis?
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Okay, Is it L-O-U-I-S?
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Yeah, yeah, that's Louis.
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Oh you're.
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You're so uncultured.
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Okay, miss Didn't-Even-Know-That-Renegue-Was-A-Word, good grief.
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Well, I know it's a word, will you let me finish?
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I apologize.
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God Most unempathetic person ever, that's me, okay, so now where was I?
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Oh, yeah, so King John died and his son, who was nine, henry III, took over as king, and his regent which I guess is like the person that helps him learn how to be a king was William Marshall.
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And William Marshall I read this in one spot and I couldn't find it again he was said to be one of the greatest knights, and it also said he was 70.
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So I don't know if he was 70, if he made it to be 70 years old, or if he was 70 when Henry III took over, if he made it to be 70 years old or if he was 70 when Henry III took over, or if that was part of my COVID-infused medicine life.
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I don't know.
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I want more of the COVID-infused medicine life story.
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I mean, if he's a 70-year-old back in 1217, that's pretty impressive, but he is supposed to be one of the greatest knights ever, except for there's a historian named Catherine Hanley.
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She wrote a bunch of medieval books, like her favorite century is the 13th century and I was reading I got sidetracked and I want to read some of her books that she wrote, because she goes into like some of the history that's not covered mainstream and so, yeah, she just she does not think that he is the greatest knight of all time.
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But she does have a book called 1217 the battles that saved england.
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I did not read it, I just know that it's out there in case anyone else wants to read it.
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All right.
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So truce um christmas 1216, which was in with henry, with a child, with a nine-year-old Henry III, and then they extended it to April 2017.
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Christmas 1216 was the truce and extended to April 1217.
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So then in May, the truce was I don't know what happened to the truce, I didn't write it down.
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Oh, here I go.
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No, no, I did write it down.
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I did write it down.
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I did write it down.
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I don't know what happened to the Jerusalem.
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So, louis, he took advantage of the pause and he went back to France to ask for more troops and more money.
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That's what happened.
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So then, william must have found out about it.
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Knight, marshall, knight William, I don't know how to refer to him.
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So then, in May of 1217 was the Battle of Lincoln, which everybody knows about.
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The Battle of Lincoln, no, lincoln is like if this is England, I don't know if it's considered the middle or the north part of England.
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So William Marshall I just referred to him as his, as last name Marshall took his people to Lincoln.
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The battle lasted about six, six hours.
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The English won, and the people surrounding the castle of Lincoln some of them were supporters of France, and so they all the supporters of England and King Henry the nine-year-old they attacked all the French people that had escaped the castle.
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They looted the whole entire city, like they took everything.
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Supposedly they got enough money to fund, like all.
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Oh, let's just forget that.
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No, that's a COVID infused memory, so forget that one, forget that one.
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But was this part is kind of sad Like there was women and children, supposedly, that were trying to escape by boat and they were found dead in their boats.
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So I don't know, probably from starvation.
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Actually, it didn't say how they died, but that's just sad.
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Okay, so this was a turning point.
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The Battle of Lincoln was a turning point in the first baron's war.
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So the barons were going up against the king because they wanted more of a democracy, the king wanted more of a feudal state.
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Okay, essentially, eventually, uh, and then in august this is the part that actually drew me in because of my navy ties uh, the battle of sandwich.
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I don't know how else to pronounce that.
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I like that.
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Next because of my sandwich ties you have a sandwich tie.
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I love sandwiches.
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I thought you meant like the sandwich ties, like the twist ties, like to close the bread.
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You don't twist, tie a sandwich.
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I know, but that's what I remember.
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You either put it in like a container or a Ziploc bag.
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Yeah, okay, my mind went there.
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Or wax paper.
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You can wrap it if you're at like a real deli and Publix will put it in the paper.
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Are you done, are you?
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done.
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Okay, the Battle of Sandwich is also called can be called the Battle of Dover, because it took place on the Strait of Dover and this is in August, so this is a pretty cool battle.
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So there's like about 40.
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And 65 ships.
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65 French ships were heading into Dover and Marshall was controlling the fleet of English ships which it's in there somewhere, but it doesn't matter came up behind them and started attacking them and totally won.
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They destroyed.
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English didn't lose any.
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Oh, they had 40 ships.
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The English didn't lose any.
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Oh, and there was 80 French ships.
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65 of the 80 French ships were captured.
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Are you sure?
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Yes, that is.
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It literally says losses English none of 40 ships, french, 65 of 80 ships captured.
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Okay.
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Captured.
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Yeah, so there was 40,000 French sailors died, 36 French knights were taken into power and supposedly this is not me, covid Eustace the Monk was the one, the French commander of the ships, and he was found, supposedly again, this is all supposedly and he was found hiding in the bilge of the ship, which is the underneath, and so they took him to the top, they beheaded him and supposedly they did like Lord of the Flies and put his head on a post.
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Ew.
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I know they did some really gross stuff back then.
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I know.
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I agree.
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So with that all happened, louis had to abandon his quest to take over France.
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The official language was changed of England was changed I don't know if it was changed back or reinstated and changed back is the same thing.
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English was made the official language of England again, and not Latin or French.
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So that's why it's there's more.
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It's a pretty important year in the history of England.
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And then the other thing that I found about 1217 was that Genghis Khan was still a ruler.
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Okay.
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That's it.
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What was your quote again?
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I don't know deleted.
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I deleted the web page.
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Okay, it was michael crichton right, I remember that.
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Okay, let's do bees don't be beheaded oh man, do you know what I was going to say?
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What Be headed.
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I'm still counting it, that's mine.
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Okay, I'll change mine to a B.
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Be a nine-year-old king, woo-hoo.
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Yeah, man.
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Don't be letting your COVID-infused dreams mess up your train of thought.
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